Deschooling Society Podcasts – Episode 7 – ‘Theatres of Education’

Jointly organised by the Serpentine Gallery and Southbank Centre’s Hayward Gallery, Deschooling Society brought together writers, artists and curators to discuss the changing relationship between art and education over two days at Southbank Centre’s Purcell Room.

We are pleased to now be able to offer a series of podcasts of these presentations and discussions.

Episode 7


Photography: Mark Blower

‘Theatres of Education’
Dialogues with Hannah Hurtzig, Suzanne Lacy and Pablo Helguera.
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Pablo Helguera introduced the session by setting out the problem of common language pedagogy versus education as performative practice.

Suzanne Lacy spoke about critical pedagogy framed with respect to the liberation of education as a site for struggle and as a tool for change making. She spoke of education in terms of embodiment and as set of relational encounters. For her, neo liberal environments are typified by a lack of spaces for exchange, as such her work aims to create these spaces and engage with communities. She spoke of the public gaze as a form of community witnessing and how in some contexts the political necessitated pedagogy. She posed the questions: what is curriculum? what does it look like outside the school?

Hannah Hurtzig spoke about here Mobile Academy project and how it endeavoured to infiltrate public space with narrative and knowledge transfer. She saw her Black market project as being based on an economy of excess, which plays with the dichotomy of expectation and disappointment.

Pablo Helguera is an artist based in New York. Heis currently Director of Adult and Academic Programs of the Education Department at the Museum of Modern Art in New York, where he organised the conference Transpedagogy: Contemporary Art and the Vehicles of Education in May 2009.

Suzanne Lacy is an artist and writer whose work is focused on interventionist art, policy and the public sphere. Her large-scale public performances and installations, videos, photographic series and texts explore issues relevant to social equality and art’s role in social change.

Hannah Hurtzig has been directing MOBILE ACADEMY since 1999, a temporary institution with frequently changing locations, which is concerned with the construction of public spaces in which narrative formats of knowledge-transfer are staged.

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